Speaker 1: 0:13

Minus 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, main engine start 4, 3, 2, 1. What? Sometimes I miss the old intro. I think about that a lot. I have dreams about the old intro in my dreams. Is that a funny one? Different cadence, yeah, I guess. So I don't know. It was just something I was thinking about lately.

Speaker 2: 0:34

We could retro back, maybe retro back.

Speaker 1: 0:37

I always just thought maybe it'd be cool if once in a while it was just like waka waka. I kind of expect you to kind of like throw me off at the beginning, it's good, or try, I like it. Yeah Well, petty as they come, slap happy Big ass news in the world. Let's fucking go. Yeah, that's true, sean's fired up.

Speaker 2: 0:55

Well.

Speaker 1: 0:56

I am pretty fired up because I didn't even know that you did this. Really you kind of did this. So it was a surprise to me, like I guess it was like I guess we didn't really talk about it that much. Fair, yeah, but how long did it take to get? Is it registered trademarked? Oh, yes, the terminology. Yes, it did take quite a long time.

Speaker 2: 1:14

Do you want to tell us about the?

Speaker 1: 1:15

process and how big a deal that is, charlie. Oh, process, I mean, the bigger deal was us, you know, going through the process of making a brand and, uh, developing everything that you know, our store and what the brand stands for. I even remember our friend cory talking about that and him being like do you, are you gonna make a brand or just like a weed store?

Speaker 2: 1:38

because it, oh yes it's a hard differentiation, are you?

Speaker 1: 1:41

opening a weed store or are you starting a cannabis brand? Yeah, a lot of people ask me that question and it's taken a lot longer, but it's been good, uh, to have assets and actually build out a brand, you mean, and then get and actually register a trademark, exactly so what? Can we sue people now? Is that what that shit means?

Speaker 1: 1:58

I think so that means we have to employ a lawyer first, I guess, though it's expensive, but anyways, but that's pretty awesome, I guess. But yeah, it took quite some time. Yeah, exactly. No, yeah, if you look it up, I think we're defended and cleared or whatever they do, stamped and approved, so that's pretty dope, congratulations. Thanks for doing that, charlie. Yeah, and obviously a big step. If we are going to open another store, then it kind of makes sense that you know to have that kind of thing, and as an entrepreneur and somebody in business and I'm pretty proud that we did that shit so yeah, no, it makes the brand.

Speaker 1: 2:34

So I can put the little R we'll put we'll have to put the R on our next line of t-shirts or some shit like that, Right. Yeah, put it right on there so then when, like the tiny little right, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, let's go, don't forget. Tonight's episode is brought to you by Raw's and Hed's.

Speaker 2: 2:51

Yeah, I got the baller box right here.

Speaker 1: 2:53

I got my sweater busted out Always. Oh, we got some coins in here tonight. Yeah, fire me a coin. You want a coin? Yeah, so the coins are delicious too. Are these milk or Milk, milk, milk. You get two pieces, which is pretty fire.

Speaker 2: 3:08

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:08

I'm going to have a coin too. Let's both do one. I'll slither you one on the top of the box. There you go, all right, but you know, I think I like the raspberry peanut butter the best. I really enjoy. Yes, you know what I'm talking about. No sugar, five milligrams each. Very innovative product. Go buy rosin heads right now. How do you eat them, do you? Just? Higher orbit is powered by rosin heads. Do you just swallow them? Do you put them under your tongue? Chew them up the coin?

Speaker 2: 3:36

No, I'm oh, I can chew my rosin head.

Speaker 1: 3:38

No, the other one, the other one Um. I usually like to let it get it warm. Sorry, warm up a little bit. The drop, that's how I just see chocolate in general. No, the rosin drops though, anyways. Oh, the drops. Sorry, sorry, sorry, I I just I just ate them.

Speaker 2: 3:55

I don't know this is the rosin.

Speaker 1: 3:56

Yeah, yeah, I ate them and I find that it hits me faster. They're weedy. I like I'm gonna swallow them, but hey, man, teach storm. Yeah, we, we got new peanut butter jelly too. That is out. There's a new drop of peanut butter and jelly. I don't know. The caramel peanut butter. Oh no, the new drop of the flour yes, buy 14 grams of flour. Go support Todd, yeah. Great friend, great products, yeah. What else did you have on your mind? We're going to talk politics. This is Gary Satan. It's worth shouting out 67 cents.

Speaker 2: 4:29

Yeah, we don't know much about them.

Speaker 1: 4:31

This was on our flow-through order and it's the Gary Satan, which is a Gary Payton times jealousy, and it says the breeder is Tiki Madman. I like how it has the breeder. I don't know who Tiki Madman is, but shout out to him it, madman. I like how it has the breeder. I don't know who Tiki Madman is but shout out to him. It has all the good stuff at the top too Limonene, beta-mercine and linalool but I gotta say like it smells and just looks really nice, like almost has like a tire rubber thing.

Speaker 1: 4:57

I think Carly Boomer said it smelled like Canadian tire. I thought that was pretty funny, like entire. I thought that was pretty funny, like when you walk down the tire aisle, so I thought that was a good one. It's a good one. It smells exactly like that. That sounds great. It was good. I enjoyed it. You didn't even try it. Yeah, there you go, I'll roll it up now. Yeah, it was. It was good. I would. I would agree at the price. Uh, it was very good.

Speaker 1: 5:18

Um, are we going to keep our guests a secret or are we just going to come out with it? No, yeah, I can't wait for our guest man. Our guest is dope. It's a perfect segue from what I was saying about you know, having a brand and creating like imagery. And look at you know Rodzenheads with his great brand. I hope he has that all checked down. But yeah, no, our next guest is in a girl, I think, and a lot of people making brands. They made our stickers, which are incredibly dope. Yes, the raised sticker slaps right, that's right. Oh, yeah, these are the season three Limited edition, I believe. If you come to the store and mention it, we'll be happy to give you one. Really, I don't even think I have these. Yeah, we have them, man. Yeah, yeah, they're really dope.

Speaker 1: 6:03

They got the flying jelly toast and the rosin head and the rosin coin. I thought it was a really cool little collab we got to do with Todd's. I didn't even realize you had the shirt on. Yeah, you're wearing this hoodie. Yeah, yeah, very dope. Yeah, no, even speaking too, I guess I get to start. You love the victory lap, so we may as well. But with the trademark too, it kind of like fortifies the victory in the neighborhood, like holding down the neighborhood. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I love it.

Speaker 1: 6:40

Well, we don't have to name the list, but there's been a lot of dispensaries that have come and gone, I guess around here, yeah, and we won't name names, but the very closest one, about 100 meters across the street, is finally called Equest. Yeah, and we wish them well. But you know, it's good to be here and thanks for everybody that's been supporting us all these years. Exactly, I guess that's all I wanted to pivot to. Yeah, that's exactly Turn it into a positive, I guess. Yeah, I know. I think I thought I said it. Well, right, you know, we wish them well and we're very happy at the same time.

Speaker 1: 7:05

No, exactly, that's fine, right, exactly, business is a Well, it's like it's even competitive thing. In that sense it's. Maybe that finally happened the right. The gauntlet is over. Maybe not necessarily. I'm sure a lot of stores are still entering the market. But this Dude, this weed's dank, how much is this? 31 bucks, I think we tried, plus tax. Dude, yeah, I'm very impressed. I'm excited to try this.

Speaker 1: 7:27

Yeah, shout out Tiki. What was his name? Tiki Madman, tiki Madman, yeah, okay, there you go, I'll check out Tiki Madman. We'll look more into that. Carly, look into who Tiki? Thanks, I don't know. I don't know. I thought it was great. I've never heard of him. It's a great nickname. It's a new job. I'm definitely. Uh, we are impressed, that's for sure. So, yeah, back to our, our guests. He's all the way from Windsor too. Um, windsor, show me our stickers.

Speaker 1: 7:57

Fucking, uh, known legal side like kind of does work in both design work, um, and and all sorts of branding and marketing and stuff. So we're excited to kind of talk to him about all those things. Yeah, we never get to delve too too much into that. Um, you know what, I guess, goes behind a brand and what what it can mean to you know what someone stands for, uh, and ultimately how you stand out, right, yeah, um, it's been huge in what we've done, I'd say, and even a lot of the brands, especially in weed, we've seen that be super important as well. Um, I think that carryover hasn't really happened quite yet in the legal market, because I guess you can't do like cool stuff no oh yeah, no, we're not there yet.

Speaker 1: 8:50

I don't think we ever will. Really, you know, I, I don't know. It sucks like america's crazy. Some of the stuff I saw in america you know what one I saw recently I thought it was so sick. What actually? On that note, it was like you know, musical cards. You don't buy a cartoon like a card yeah, was it on it.

Speaker 1: 9:05

I think it was like Star Wars kind of with like the drippy Star Wars. It was like Darth Vader was the strain and you open the box. It was like dun, dun, dun, come on. Like the music, literally. Like I was so impressed I was like that's pretty cool, right. And it looked like one of those little cereal boxes you know, like the boxes of like Frosted Flakes you got. Oh, that's fire.

Speaker 2: 9:24

Like Porn Pops or whatever. I have like an eighth in it.

Speaker 1: 9:26

Yeah, it was like I think it was like Vader Loops or something. You know what I mean, and it was like it was so cool, I was like I would buy that and then you open it and then the music goes. All this stuff's really expensive. I know that the the big, obviously. I think sushi, blue sushi is like 80 bucks, I think, or 60, isn't it? So how much is it? I think it's 80 bucks. I think it's 80 bucks, man, for an eighth US too.

Speaker 2: 9:51

What do their bags and how do they look like?

Speaker 1: 9:53

I bet you that's huge in there. And then also I would say that's supposed to be really good. Or the alien labs. I know that's like 70. I think he's a little bit more reasonable, like he's a little bit less, but it's not cheap. And then we're talking to you as the alien labs for three and a half grams alien labs. That was wild, yeah. Um, people think we get pay a lot.

Speaker 1: 10:15

But I don't know no, I feel like lately I've been impressing americans most of the time depends um once in a while, but you gotta have the good weed in your back pocket. Hopefully, um, it's been getting better and better. I mean, you know I've been a want of gummies, want of gummies. Where are you? Where are you at? I think that that's weird. I've noticed a lot of like things are like disappearing right now, which is sad. I'm glad that um Sherbinsky's is back, cause they disappeared, disappeared for a minute. But I guess it all has to do with, like, the Bazaam thing and what I mean. The Bazaam, the like restructuring and the bankruptcy and stuff like that. Am I right? Yeah, I guess, pivot there.

Speaker 1: 10:52

I don't know. No, no, I think that's like the nature of how the market is trending, like companies getting absorbed and then having to relist, right, and then that's its whole process with the OCS To like get a different SKU relisted. Yeah, because even, like with the baby Jeter's now they come in the T-odd packages or whatever, right, yeah, you notice that. Yeah, so I think that's exactly what happens, right, when there's a shuffle, they just have to relist and it's a process because they'll have to sell through their existing stuff, relisting on the stock exchange under a different symbol or whatever, I guess, so to speak. I don't know, I just thought of that in my head for a second. Yeah, you always love saying that. It is kind of like that the calculated risks on products and stuff no, then I'm buying it.

Speaker 1: 11:37

I feel like that's what we're doing, like you're buying it, that sometimes you get a dog and you're like god damn it. Yeah, I, I make no money on it, you just have to sell it. Sucks for like nothing. Yeah, that's kind of just always kind of how weeds been, though I will say, as somebody who's sold weed for a long time is or like yeah, rarely, or you buy too much of something that's good and then it's not good anymore because it's like it's there was a weird he wave and it was humid and horse your AC blue or some shit.

Speaker 1: 12:04

Changes in the bags too, like, even like, yeah, right, yeah, I don't know, I don't know where I was going with that, but just the weed game's hard and it always has been. No, yeah, it's just sales at the end of the day, and sales are hard, yeah, and you gotta hustle that shit. Yes, maybe we can sue people and make another revenue stream now that we have the trademark. That's so like American, I don't know. I think it's just good that we protect the brand. Somebody told me we should open a store in New York. Oh, my god.

Speaker 1: 12:36

In New York, and then I had another joker from Europe say that and I was like what's dream, big man?

Speaker 2: 12:43

Amsterdam baby.

Speaker 1: 12:44

Wow, wouldn't that be cool. We'd start with somewhere like BC. We'd have to fly out like once a month for sure, you know, just to make sure everything was okay. That'd be ridiculous.

Speaker 2: 12:54

It'd be a completely different game.

Speaker 1: 12:55

Amsterdam told me that though I was like thanks, man, wait to do it in Amsterdam. Yeah, he was like you're shit, so European, no. Or he was like or Berlin, or whatever, because they're about to legalize. We're not from there you get, so cooked, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 13:12

And you don't know anything.

Speaker 1: 13:13

I don't know German law, Like you think.

Speaker 2: 13:15

I'm going to interpret this. I know I just thought it was Use my compliance, use my.

Speaker 1: 13:19

German compliance skills. I'm just saying, bro, this brand could be global. Yeah, that's true, that's true. That would be pretty cool, I think. Yeah, that'd be.

Speaker 1: 13:30

You gotta dream, yeah yeah, I guess that's all I'm trying to say I feel you Dream your dreams, I feel you, I feel you. I would be curious to see, though, the overall closures and what's open and not. I do think in Toronto, like the city of Toronto, it's probably under 200 stores now, which I think historically had been like 220 to two. Sorry, what happened? I just act like a toddler sometimes because I live with one. I'm like, oh, no.

Speaker 1: 14:03

Sorry, back to that. I just thought that was a. I'm like, oh no, sorry Back to that. I just thought it was a funny joke. I just find I catch myself doing that a lot. That's pretty funny.

Speaker 1: 14:13

Or talking to people like they're fucking five. I'm like sorry, I'm really sorry. Don't talk to people like they're five, sorry. Or they're just like a kid and I don't even mean to. That's funny. Back on, you know, sorry. Or they're just like a kid and I don't even mean to. That's funny. Happens, happens when you're back on topic. I was just thought that was a funny thought. Yeah, no, definitely. Um, yeah, no, I think I wonder, because municipalities still haven't even opted in anyways, at least locally, in terms of our immediate, you know, I guess, continued search, um, but Mississauga. I saw and this was three months ago there was already 50, at least 50 applicants for Mississauga. Like proper, how many. That's crazy. There's a lot, I heard. It's not as fruitful as everybody thought it was going to be. I could see that. Um, I think that probably going to take some time because probably the illicit market is still thriving there. Yeah, so they have to go through that initial phase of like the ones that kind of fizzle out.

Speaker 1: 15:10

Yeah, I think I'm going to do the Dutch fold. Yeah, the Dutch fold. I feel like that's it, though that's just like the cycle of I guess the capitalism attrition at work is moving in and then having some just closed. The weak ones who won't? Gary, baby. Oh yeah, I didn't get to drive hold up. Drive Hold the Gary the back cannon 67 cents. Shout out to them. I'm excited to try that on the break. Wow, with our guest Alan. I don't know his last name. I feel like a douchebag. What is it? Alan Johnson, my guy? That's my guy. What Is that actually your last name, dude? Yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:52

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:54

We'll be back. Follow us on Instagram at Higher Orbit. You can also find us on Spotify, youtube, all this stuff If you want to see what all we're doing, all the things that we do, what we talk on this show. We'll be back with Alan Johnson. We'll be back with Alan Johnson from Higher Visions. We are back. You're back. Yeah, it was your cue. Yeah, welcome to Higher Orbit. Our guest, alan Johnson in the house. He's the owner and founder of Hybrid Visions. From the sounds of it, it's like you do a lot of the fucking stickering. As far as I know, packaging there's a lot behind the scenes that goes. As far as I know, um, packaging, like there's a lot behind the scenes that goes into a brand and again, packaging. And yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome to high road. Thank you, yeah, man, thanks for coming, no problem. Yeah, all the way from windsor uh, love windsor.

Speaker 2: 16:53

Shout out to windsor heck yeah, yeah, best pizza and country. I think, oh, what a cornmeal right. Yeah, it's the. It's the deal, yeah, with the cooking it with the crust and across in the little yeah, or meals cut up, pepperoni though like they do like a vert cheese like the Detroit style right yeah, they use a local oh is that cheese and they they like. It's just that cheese that makes the pizza and the sauce is more like a sweet sauce.

Speaker 1: 17:23

And then you got the cornmeal. I fucking love pizza. Which one do you like, Capri?

Speaker 2: 17:27

What do you like? Capri's good, I like Armando's, armando's.

Speaker 1: 17:32

Arcata yeah, all of those.

Speaker 2: 17:36

All of those. They're all good, a lot of good pizza.

Speaker 1: 17:39

Yeah, Fair, I do like I can't really eat pizza anymore, but I do. There's a the pizza city you've never heard of.

Speaker 2: 17:46

That's a little what A little documentary on it, If you ever want to.

Speaker 1: 17:50

That's a spot there.

Speaker 2: 17:51

Yeah, no, on Windsor Pie. It's called the Pizza City You've Never Heard Of Okay, and you can look it up on the internet. I'm sure you watch it. That's dope, there you go.

Speaker 1: 18:01

Yeah, man, you're like a puppet master kind of. I guess I think about it that way. Right, you're behind the scenes, you're making a few happen. What.

Speaker 2: 18:09

Did I say that before Do?

Speaker 1: 18:10

I say that a lot, damn it.

Speaker 2: 18:12

Alright, I did retract.

Speaker 1: 18:13

We're going to cut that out Retracted. No, Sean loves a puppet master. Well, I don't know, man, it's just like it's nice to get people like that are like doing stuff and you don't even necessarily think about it. Yeah, Helping people execute their brands with their slaps and the and the jar covers and the and all the dope stuff you do for people. So like, where did you get into this thing and where did the inspiration come to start Hybrid Visions.

Speaker 2: 18:38

Well, I started printing and graphics basically like over 10 years ago. So I started a little company locally and that's you know. My friends and family started, you know, supporting that. And then I became bigger locally and was able to like kind of sustain you know us clientele and and the kind of people that I wanted to work with.

Speaker 2: 19:02

And then, uh, coming into the cannabis side of things, it was like um, more of taking pictures of my weed and I got into like on Instagram, like these people that these producers, these growers, they would start following me, whatever. And, uh, they saw my work and they reach out and most, most people would reach out at the beginning about for, like photography, because I, that's all I was focused on at the time. And, uh, I kind of pivoted because my main business was printing and graphics. So, like I was like you know what I'm just going to focus in branding, printing, merch. You know what I was doing already, right, um and and kind of bring it over to the like, the market, like the cannabis community and all these guys that were interested in my photos. But, at the same time, like photo photography wasn't as thriving to me as you know because it was I was doing this as like.

Speaker 2: 20:01

I was feeding it. Like you know, this is my full-time job, Like type thing.

Speaker 1: 20:04

It wasn't we photography, you're just doing photography.

Speaker 2: 20:06

I was doing photography and posting it online and then people were hitting me up like, hey, how do I get these? How do you do photos? How can I get photos like this for my my products? How can I get photos like this for my my products? Got it. And then you know, moving over that, realizing, like people realizing oh, you don't just, you don't just do photos, because it's like I wasn't really showing my printing side of things.

Speaker 1: 20:25

Yes.

Speaker 2: 20:26

So getting into the community was was from the photography side of things, just enjoying, just doing a hobby.

Speaker 1: 20:33

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:38

And then people, actually companies and LPs and everybody hitting me up and like no, we need these photos, how much do you charge? And I had no idea you know what to charge. Nothing, right, so. But then I was like you know what, maybe I should think about this. So I started. I started like drafting like contracts with for photography instead of you know, you know print, you know it's kind of like I was already an entrepreneur type, vibe kind of guy, so, um, I kind of got into it and then I was like you know what? That's kind of taking away from what I've already started, so like, which is the print and focusing on all that, and so why don't I?

Speaker 2: 21:15

just kind of like use photography as like more of a conversation on like Instagram and on any social media platforms and like that.

Speaker 1: 21:25

Alan, have you ever had a rosette? The fun pivot. We got you a shot there on the baller. Yeah, yeah, yeah, printed those up. What flavor would you like? Yeah, I'll take a, have a look at these close up the strawberry, or the caramel, or the top of the peanut butter. You want this one. These ones are good. I'll pass me one of those okay. I think that's the caramel peanut butter. It's cool that the hobby turned into something like.

Speaker 2: 21:46

Some revenue. Yeah, and rosin, like Todd loved my, my photography right and I and he's been supporting me since like day one, and that's basically that's what's driven me into. What I'm doing right now. So shout out to a rosin heads.

Speaker 1: 22:01

Go buy from their fire. Yum, really good. We are powered by rosin heads, if you didn't know, mmm. So how long have you had the, the caramel peanut butter, slowly becoming my favorite, I think? Oh, really, on that last note, how long, like have you been working for yourself? Uh, like, because I mean, well, I've been, yeah we're.

Speaker 2: 22:23

I've been working doing my stuff like a side business off my full-time job, uh like from 2015, 2014, okay, yeah, like then.

Speaker 1: 22:36

So hybrid visions has been around for almost 10 years.

Speaker 2: 22:39

No, no, critical designs has been like my other business.

Speaker 1: 22:43

Okay.

Speaker 2: 22:43

Yeah, and then, and then I have like to like my. My other printing company isn't, isn't really targeting the cannabis uh industry. So to to you know, sort of target more of the cannabis industry and what I like to like. This is more fun to me that you know it's more. It's more exhilarating than dealing with a lot of the brands that I deal with on the other side. So, uh, it's good to have the balance of both.

Speaker 1: 23:09

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:10

So it kind of it kind of entered the cannabis industry, um, with hybrid visions, and that's why I I made it an entity kind of in itself. Okay, yeah. So yeah, like been doing that since 2019, 2020. I kind of hybrid visions came along around 2021 when, like finally, and birthed with the photos.

Speaker 2: 23:32

Yeah right, yeah, yeah and then, and then, and then I started posting about what else I could do, which was design, branding, packaging, um, things like that, and even merch, like I've. This is all the stuff that I've, all I've done for years and years. So, um, I kind of just was like I'll bring it to the cannabis industry and it's been great, everybody loves it.

Speaker 1: 23:53

So yeah, you also were so kind as to bring some of these amazing dabs and unreal turps here. Um, yeah, thanks for sharing those with us. On that note, I got to um, I'm gonna show another legal company. We love our friends at woody nelson. Um, shout out, um, I can't remember his name, walker. Hope you're doing well, walker. Hi, fidelity. This live rawson's fire. Dozy dope was really nice and clean, organic input, obviously, girl Scout Cookie Science. Yeah, it was really nice. But back to what you were saying yeah, these were just phenomenal. You actually, yeah, you made this. Yeah, canadian Dabs, oh man, yeah, so you did the artwork on the fruit jar.

Speaker 2: 24:34

I did the artwork on the uh on the side wrap.

Speaker 1: 24:37

Yeah, I had this just before. That was excellent, yeah, Um, so you've done like stuff for both legal and um and obviously legacy, and what do you find?

Speaker 2: 24:45

the the biggest challenges are, uh, you know, just the rules, I guess obviously, yeah, legal side it's more regulation-based right or whatever the book says you got to go by. So it's pretty boring. It's a little more boring.

Speaker 1: 25:05

It's like you got a two-color logo and it has to be this big and it has to have a big yellow warning symbol on it and for the legal side, right it's all the same.

Speaker 2: 25:20

So obviously you enjoy doing the legacy shit all the time. Yeah, I way more enjoy doing like people that I that hit me up and say do whatever, here's what I have. So I work off their creativity, like kind of thing in their vision and just bring whatever and they and they're just like wow, like okay, you know what I mean. Like yeah, they kind of give you more free reign than the, the legal side. The legal side is, you know specific things, right? So, um, this side is still not regulated in that way. So you get more. You get to like, just like you said, in uh, like the american, like uh market. Like there's the packaging. The packaging is completely different and I wish it could be like that over here.

Speaker 1: 25:53

Like that would be awesome, you know what's is interesting on that note, though, the kind of integration of um stickers, I would say, especially in the legal uh cannabis market, like at the store which, by the way, we're open and we're from the back of the shop right now. Um order us on uber eats we're available I'm fired up. Yeah, no, hey, you threw me off track, god sorry. No, no, that's okay.

Speaker 1: 26:20

I had to plug it yeah, the stickers like uh, just like how important that is in a sense actually. Um, for some of these legal brands to kind of get their brand out like do anything. That's kind of fun, because it's not a part of the cannabis packaging yeah um, and I would say it's.

Speaker 1: 26:37

It's kind of like it's cool and and funny in a way, like how much of the sticker culture there is and like people cover their laptops and like my bike is actually covered yeah, yeah, um, no, people love them, people collect them, people have walls or you know your your fridge, your turp fridges or whatever. Yeah, the fridge, everywhere, turp fridge.

Speaker 2: 26:56

Yeah, yeah, they're a cool asset to have.

Speaker 1: 27:00

People kind of collect the jars even too.

Speaker 2: 27:02

Yeah, some people have graveyards of their old terp jars, you know, and they look at the artwork on there, right. And so I think a lot of the producers, and especially the legacy market, like to support like artists that are doing drawing and just digital artwork in general, or whatever, and just go and having fun with it and making something that they you know, that like compliments their terps inside that jar. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1: 27:29

It is very cool to see. It kind of gave me an idea I almost want to do it is have one of those little like um machines where you maybe put in like a toonie or whatever and go and you, you know you remember those things yeah, yeah, oh, I do, yeah pops out, I'd be pretty fired they had some cool ones, they had some right like if we had some cool stickers and fired that up.

Speaker 1: 27:48

No, yeah, I know, I know people do love them, so that would be cool. All right, you might have to turn more than two moments. So, yeah, yeah, premium stickers are premium for a reason. My friends, I know why not, man. Plug it. What are some of your key services, man, and what's your secret sauce? You know? Hook us up.

Speaker 2: 28:09

Mostly I'm in the print and design and branding. So like, if you need packaging like or logo, design um things like that, um, a lot of uh, brand like assets would be things like logo marks or any sort of assets you could, you could think of with marketing, um your business, even merch Um, but yeah, like mainly print, merch um, design, design, branding, stuff like that You're trying to think something crazy.

Speaker 1: 28:43

Could you help us do knapsacks? Yeah, yeah absolutely Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 28:47

You could like. This is like a little embroider patch.

Speaker 1: 28:50

I did that.

Speaker 2: 28:51

Yeah, patches and stuff like that you can just heat, press them on yourself, or you can get me to do it. You know, let's's chat.

Speaker 1: 28:57

I was thinking we buy like a bulk batch of some ones we like and then like somehow brand them cosmetrallis, but my whole idea was like it looks like a jet pack.

Speaker 1: 29:05

I don't know how we do it, but this would somehow you make it look like like a rocket pack. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That'd be cool. Anyways, I don't know if that was my crazy idea I had. We can make it come to life, don't worry, that's a pretty wild idea. Yeah, no, I think it's Like Boba Fett's backpack, you know, but it's like it's not. You know, like the painted tuxedo, but it's like painted on like a moon pack you know, Sean's wild.

Speaker 1: 29:29

Sean's wild, yeah, what does that process look like for you? Because I feel like, again, depending on what you're trying to do and how specific you get into it, but what's it like, I guess, working on brands, yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:44

Every brand has their own level of like what they want to do. You can go from like you know, I just need a logo to slap on my stuff to. I need a whole you know brand identity and I need whole brand identity and I need specific rules throughout my life and my brand. So they need guidelines to tell their designers or their people that they work with. So I do stuff like that. That's more behind the scenes, like you said, where I'm giving basically the brand their guidelines to keeping their brand consistent, making sure the imaging is all the same. You know things like that. So there's there's that level of things and then there's just levels of like where I just need a logo, just just make me whatever.

Speaker 2: 30:31

Yeah you know, I have a hundred bucks. And then there's you know you can, are somebody that you know is looking for the longevity of things, and they're they're, they're serious into things. You can spend a lot of money and a lot of time into the brand, right so, and to make it successful, and, and it starts with, starts with the design and and, uh, how you're going to execute and get it into the market. Because, you know, not in the cannabis industry, let's say like you can't really stand out here. I mean like, but yeah that's it.

Speaker 2: 31:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 31:06

Take us behind the scenes, buddy, like.

Speaker 2: 31:08

what's your process like when you, when you work with clients, to kind of they'll hit me up They'll usually on Instagram or email and inquire what they need. And let's say you're running, I need. I need to do a couple slaps or jar labels on.

Speaker 1: 31:26

You know I'm dropping.

Speaker 2: 31:28

I'm dropping you know A new drop for my, my rosin or whatever I do. I deal with a lot of hash makers, that's so, that's fun. So that's mainly the stickers, and printing I deal with is hash making Makers. I don't deal with a lot of growers or flower or anything like that.

Speaker 1: 31:46

Well, it's the new wave. Right Rawson's the new wave. Amazing connections to have too. I know You're working with these guys.

Speaker 2: 31:54

It's pretty awesome. There's some really cool um producers out there and they're really cool people. They're a lot of just trying to support their family. You know, doing, they're doing their thing right and um, but they get it and uh, they support it all and yeah, so they'll. They'll hit me up and I will kind of listen to what they have to say, what they want. Sometimes they just say do whatever. This is.

Speaker 1: 32:18

You know, this is the budget and I trust you kind of thing well no, it's no.

Speaker 2: 32:22

I I usually yeah, I usually make the like okay, you need a logo, what, what you know? Where are you going with it? You know, and then kind of where, where we should go with like pricing and all that stuff like that. There's a lot of proposals. There's a lot of proposals. There's a lot of, you know, especially the legal market. It's like they want to see like proposals and they want to see everything and it's like this is not the same as the legacy. They don't, they don't. They want to see the stuff you're doing in action on Instagram and to get to get to those clients. It's a totally different. Yeah, it's quite a process and it takes a lot to just produce one little jar, you know, do you want?

Speaker 1: 33:05

to realize I think you're going to tell us about this little mood mat. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, munger.

Speaker 2: 33:08

Matt, you want to hold that up? Yeah from Hope Society. He sent me some of these jars for today, like for us to smoke.

Speaker 1: 33:16

Yeah, that was so generous, so shout out to him. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2: 33:19

And that's one of the brands that I've worked with recently.

Speaker 1: 33:22

Yeah, he's trying to give back. This is for charity, right?

Speaker 2: 33:24

Yeah, so he's a legacy guy and he's just trying to get all the top-end hash makers growers together and he's giving access to people know access for people to you know purchase that and and then part of the purchase goes to um, his, uh, his cause, which is which is pretty cool it's like every jar, every, any, any product you're gonna get, it's gonna go to you know a fund for mental health and, uh, an addiction if somebody needs direction or help and there'll be some you know way to do it to, you know, instead of just yeah that's awesome.

Speaker 1: 34:06

And buy those jars and 10 bucks each, you'll go to that um foundation and that's a cool the hope society that's what it's called the hope society.

Speaker 2: 34:13

Yeah, yeah, so um and that's the touching story that was really cool somebody uh kind of like the tree of life.

Speaker 1: 34:18

You know you want to give back, so we're happy to shut that out. That's very nice. I guess are we gonna get even more stone, gentlemen.

Speaker 2: 34:27

Yeah, I got a jar in my hand, I don't know which. I think you should try that water. Yeah, should we do the water? Oh, dude, the 33rd that's not unreal 33rd degree extracts out in BC, and then I think I'll water own smack hole Shout out. We're going to try that We'll come back.

Speaker 1: 34:41

Oh, and we found out who the Tiki Madman is. Oh, there you go, tiki Madman. Carly Boomersad has over 57 genetics. 58. Gary Satan was nice. The Gary Satan was really nice, so shout out to him Great cut. If you're looking for like burnt rubber chirps and like a little bit of gas and it was very good, shout out, we'll be right back on Higher Orbit with our homie Alan Johnson. We're back. We were just talking about sticker sheets in the 90s and we had sticker sheets, so we should do more of them. I still I like my machine idea. Yeah, I like that idea.

Speaker 2: 35:19

The machine where you used to get the stickers out of them the sticker machine.

Speaker 1: 35:22

I know, but where do you get those machines? Do they exist? Yeah, they're from like 90s too. You know what? I'll make a note and we'll look into it. Make a note, bruh.

Speaker 2: 35:30

I'm going to have another coin.

Speaker 1: 35:32

Shout out to Rosenheads Do you want another chocolate on? Yeah, what's the coin like? Oh, I have a coin in the back there. He had some other coins.

Speaker 2: 35:39

There's only five milligrams.

Speaker 1: 35:42

Todd, if you're listening, I'm not busting your balls, but I wouldn't mind a new flea would drop on one day. That would be fire. I don't know if he's got it in the no anymore. Are you good? No, I'm good. Coin is fire. I'm good, I'm good. All those delicious dabs were so delicious. Smackles was fire. Shout out once again to our friends we didn't. The Hope Society, where $10 goes, it is Munger Melts, our homie Munger Melts. So go buy jars. Alan did the artwork in the box, so that's like that thumper.

Speaker 2: 36:16

It's a Joe.

Speaker 1: 36:16

Boy Pink. Yeah, it was fantastic those assets, market assets. Yeah, you worked with him. Yeah, it was fantastic those assets, marketing assets.

Speaker 2: 36:23

Yeah, those are some of the shit you do. You worked with him.

Speaker 1: 36:25

Yeah, oh, yeah, I did everything.

Speaker 2: 36:26

He came to me and said I'm going to start Hope Society and I need a box design, I need a logo, I need all of it, right? Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, so I've done what I can for him and he's done what he can for me, and it's been a good collaboration. So that's cool.

Speaker 1: 36:40

I really shout out. Matt, do you think there's some wiggle room in the legal market to do something cool? Because, like you know what I saw, I don't know. Have you seen there's some brands trying to like?

Speaker 2: 36:49

push boundaries. You know what I mean. Yeah, that I know. And I mean I'm just the guy that they come to to you know. Produce the thing so like I don you know. Produce the things so like I don't know exactly what they want sometimes in their mind. But there's some like I'm working right now currently with like some that are like, well, how about we just make sticker sheets or whatever that uh, match the size of our jars and we're not putting them on?

Speaker 2: 37:16

but if we just put them out, somebody can put them on and then just make a cool jar so that they have a jar and maybe they can just fill that jar or whatever. You know what I mean. So they're trying to all these kind of ideas to like make it kind of like a legacy thing like vibe, but you know, without breaking the rules of I swear I saw maybe I'm wrong a bolo.

Speaker 1: 37:36

When you open it, the jar has something on top. I don't know if you've seen that. Maybe I been mistaken. Maybe what do you mean on the underside, like, is it laser etched in a mylar bag but then within the mylar bag it's within a standard mason jar and on top of the mason jar is the sticker and they had a sticker.

Speaker 2: 37:55

See, I've asked brands for like stuff trying to pull that off, and they're like no, we can't put stickers inside the bag. We can't put sticker on like and I get it in it in in the regulations and stuff that set out through health canada, you can't right.

Speaker 1: 38:08

But maybe people go for it. That would be fun if it was just like under the lid. Well, think about yeah.

Speaker 2: 38:13

I said why can't you put a sticker in inside a bag? I like that.

Speaker 2: 38:18

I like yeah, you know I don't know are there any like trends, alan, you're noticing recently when it comes to like the packaging game it's just whatever, like the higher, the highest level of like uh, one last coolest looking uh you know thing you can make, really. So I mean, that's what it's about. Like, I think a lot of people are just like, oh, like, how far can you take this? Uh, you know this, this packaging, or this, this sticker, this, it's been a lot of uh are just like, oh, like, how far can you take this? Uh, you know this, this packaging, or this, this sticker, this, it's been a lot of uh, the hype with the raised, the raised uh effects. Now with the you know, the uv printers out there now are are great. There's how it does that yeah, how does that?

Speaker 1: 38:56

how does that?

Speaker 2: 38:56

work. So I like it's a, it's a uv roll to roll printer. So like um, it's rolls of vinyl and you're just printing on vinyl and then you can. You can have machines that like I have a machine that cuts and prints so it will die. Cut out like the shape whatever shape I want and then, um, yeah, they have.

Speaker 2: 39:16

And then the, the ink is a uv curable ink which, uh, it's like if a girl gets her nails done. They put that lamp underneath. There's a lamp on the print head that, like, cures the ink instantly and that's how you can get a layered effect. And, yeah, any matte finish, clear finish over top. You know there's a lot of different cool things that these printers, the technology is crazy. You could go so far, right, you can go so far, but how, how far?

Speaker 1: 39:46

how far do you want to go? How expensive?

Speaker 2: 39:48

this shit must be expensive it's, it's pricey, um, and not because of the materials, I don't think, or the inks haven't been expensive or anything, it's more of the time they haven't dialed in. Uh, the machines like the, the time it takes to print you know a hundred of these like crazy stickers is is isn't in enormous compared to if I just ran it on my other machine. That doesn't do any crazy effects, it just prints CMYK color and that's it right. But there's others, there's, there's a whole bunch like that's a whole different thing, like print industry, like you know what's more efficient, what's not right in the print industry, like there's a whole different topics there, right.

Speaker 2: 40:30

So fair enough. So, like it's it kind of just following trends, and the trends are with, especially, the legacy side and the hash rosin jars. They're all you know. They. They're a premium product, right. So, uh, they, a lot of them, want premium looking jars. That you know. And that's how you can effectively effectively make something like look cooler or make it look uh like on the shelf or in someone's instagram uh story pop out, you know, in somebody you know, or and a lot, of, a lot of the Instagram guys on it there or girls whoever, yeah, like they, they just show off the artwork that's on the jars and on their bags of weed and stuff.

Speaker 1: 41:15

So it's kind of like art, I feel like it is. It kind of has become that way. If you look at some like back to I know I already mentioned the American stuff and what's going on in some other kind of markets yeah, you really see people cherishing it and holding on to it Collecting the jars A lot of people that collect the jars that they buy.

Speaker 1: 41:38

That's cool and you know I swear on Reddit. You know as well, just like you speak of collecting. Sorry, someone made like a duffel bag out of their packaging. I think it was caramel bags, pre-rolled bags. I saw somebody who's been doing that, where they can make like a vest or a hat. Sorry, just in the sake of it sucks that we make a lot of packaging. That is unfortunate. I think I'll pass on the bright orange caramel packaging suit. But you know personally.

Speaker 2: 42:04

It's a funny idea.

Speaker 1: 42:08

It's not a bad idea, but I don't think it's going to, unless you can somehow make the color like shredded and make it look like more like a how would I describe it? Like a pattern. Oh, it'd be made of mylar, though It'd be shit. I don't know, man, I'm just speaking out loud. I just don't really want to walk around. Anyway, she followed me okay, you have to repurpose it into something else for me to actually want to wear it yeah, there's a lot of more neutral.

Speaker 1: 42:29

A lot of waste, yeah, yeah I guess, that's a whole other story too, yeah, um well, do you find there's any like recycling, let's say in the nest either? No, no, there's none.

Speaker 2: 42:41

And it sucks because we were me and you know me and canadian dabs are just talking and he's like man, what could you do? That's like you know, biodegradable and stuff like just in, and it's like, yeah, I I want to but for what? For what everybody wants. There's really no way of doing it, so it is what it is right, I really like the three different jars you brought. I know you brought four even, but uh yeah yeah, yeah, just like in the some of my favorites there. So that's it.

Speaker 1: 43:09

Like we got gas town like I like how the gas town just looks so like tally man. That was.

Speaker 2: 43:13

Tally man is the strain the fruit fruit joy, yeah, fruit joy. One from canadianabs and we got some Smackles.

Speaker 1: 43:23

Which.

Speaker 2: 43:23

I don't know exactly what the cross is here, watermelon.

Speaker 1: 43:29

Yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 2: 43:31

I think that was my favorite one, the Smackles, yeah it's one of my favorites this year, for sure, for sure. Definitely, like those candy turps In particular projects in the past.

Speaker 1: 43:41

You're really proud of that, like you'd love to highlight, or clients really stand out to you.

Speaker 2: 43:46

Projects. Well, you guys are one of them. You guys, like, you guys hit me up for the stickers and you know the design and cool thing like that. Appreciate you, dude, you, dude, yeah, yeah, but uh, I don't know, like there's uh, there's just been so many I've done stuff with like true quartz, which is like a company that's like you know, uh produces bangers, quartz, bangers for dabbing and uh, canadian dabs. Awesome guy to work for uh and matt, he's been awesome. A lot of those guys. The legal side, sauce, rosin labs if you ever heard of that.

Speaker 1: 44:21

Yeah, really, into that point break cart they had and yeah, yeah, so those those pictures that you, a lot of those guys, legal Side Sauce Rosin Labs, if you ever heard of them oh, those guys are dope. Yeah, I was really into that point break cart they had. Yeah, yeah, so those pictures.

Speaker 2: 44:27

they still do photos with me. Oh nice, those are yours.

Speaker 1: 44:31

Yeah, all the photos.

Speaker 2: 44:33

Most, I think all of their photos basically their product photos are probably mine Well, not mine but theirs, but you know what I mean. Well, not mine but theirs, but you know what I mean. I took them and they love that and I love working for them. They're really cool and it's like good to see that there's these kind of people that are still doing the same support on, like as a legacy side guys. They're still like okay, we're going to support.

Speaker 1: 44:55

So that's a reasonable example, too, of a good looking brand, in my opinion. Yeah, especially for what they're doing.

Speaker 2: 45:03

Yeah, looking like a brand, in my opinion, for especially for what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have like a good job too. Yeah, hugo and jordan, they're crazy. Yeah, they're killing it.

Speaker 1: 45:09

They're killing it, but they're really good products and it's a really good brand. That, I think, is like pretty too true to the legacy uh side of things, and oh yeah, that's a really cool.

Speaker 1: 45:18

Um approachable effect. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I think it's super important. Think it's super important I don't know, I probably shouldn't say this, but I guess they did in a way but it kind of reminds me of like, uh, just the fonts. It looks kind of uh, comic booky, comic sans, but I like getting that way reminds me yeah, like, yeah, 90 ish yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool they're.

Speaker 2: 45:37

They're cool vibes.

Speaker 1: 45:38

So what are some of your favorite cannabis brands that you like and like their branding and stuff and you kind of fuck with and you get inspiration from?

Speaker 2: 45:46

Branding.

Speaker 1: 45:46

Sorry, go ahead, go in like, like, like cannabis, friends that you like and you like their shit, you like their colors, you like their brand. I like inspiration and I think they're doing cool stuff right now like I don't know. Legal side on the either or yeah, on the legal side.

Speaker 2: 45:59

I don't know like Greybeards kind of cool, like their vibe. Yeah, on the legal side.

Speaker 1: 46:02

I don't know like graybeard's kind of cool.

Speaker 2: 46:03

I like their vibe. I don't I don't have that vibe in my design but I like like what they're doing. I like they like to see their like kind of how they do a lot of their stuff and, um, uh, what else, like sauce, does a lot of difference. I don't do their designs as stuff, I just do their printing and you know photos.

Speaker 1: 46:21

But they have a lot of different cool cool designs that they you know, for their stickers and things like that.

Speaker 2: 46:27

So that's kind of cool, um. But yeah, just I'm, I've been so in tune with like more of like the corporate, like brands, like you know, coca-cola and all these corporate side of things, so like I really it's, it's been fun to transition into the fun like cart, like more, not cartoony like or kind of like this kind of like stuff.

Speaker 1: 46:47

so it's just more definitely more fun, right yeah, it's just more fun, and yeah yeah, I think we might see it eventually. I mean, definitely, todd did it a little bit. Yeah, with this at least it's love the hoodies. An extension of the brand.

Speaker 1: 47:04

The drippy face. I really appreciate this new logo and he did like a few. There's one with like a tongue and it has like a. It's basically a tab of acid on there. Oh okay, I don't know how he gets away with it, but it's cool. I like that. That's all the one pattern it tweet. I like it. I think branding is so important. Like some stuff doesn't resonate.

Speaker 2: 47:21

You know what I mean you definitely have to have, uh, a consistent flow and like, and as soon as you see, you know, even if something changes, like todd does, he changes it up, but you can always kind of tell that it's like rosinhead stuff. Yeah, it's like at the beginning he's always had this vibe and then it's always kind of like it's changed. But it's been the same, almost like you know what I mean. So, and that's part of part of being.

Speaker 2: 47:46

You know at the beginning you do it right and then you can build on top of uh, like on top of that and top of that and make it like consistent where you're, where you're having customers recognize instantly, right, I love yellow.

Speaker 1: 47:59

Some people don't like yellow, but I always liked it. I thought he rocked the black and yellow really well, like you, todd. Yeah, man Always did it well. I don't think he cares about football with Steelers. No, he doesn't give a shit when you make something dope like this, the stickers. Do you just fire it off and then you're a dope-ass machine with the UV. Oh yeah, it makes them and it's like, and then you're like oh, buddy.

Speaker 2: 48:22

Yeah, I know there's a lot of things that go into just create, just printing. That, yeah, there's totally. It's like you you start with the design, then you, yeah, then you have to transpose, like so your printer understands what. What is what it's doing, right?

Speaker 2: 48:35

um, like the layering how many layers do you want on there? How you know, there's a lot of setup involved, but then you, you got those simpler ones. But those simpler ones do they want a matte finish? Do they want a gloss finish? They, you know there's all kinds of things, and then maintenance on all these machines is insane. So, um, there's a lot of things, and then you know a lot of designers and a lot of artists don't know how to kind of work with the printers and the guys that will actually produce this product, and so there's a lot of extra work that needs to go into it sometimes so um, but yeah, it's crazy, there's lots of steps to it, lots of steps.

Speaker 2: 49:16

I wish I could go, yeah, one by one. I'm not a good teacher. That's the number one thing like I found. I found I'm not good at teaching like or explaining how things work very well, I just do them and then I know how to do them and learn, and I can't really, I can't really like transpose it back. But yeah, but there it's not. Just, yeah, click a button and print a thing, no, there's.

Speaker 1: 49:39

There's a lot to it yeah, yeah, how many machines are involved in like something like?

Speaker 2: 49:43

that one you look at like what we can be as little as one, or like there's a couple. Like you, you get lamination, so you have to take out the vinyl and, you know, put it in a laminating machine that will put another layer on top of that to protect the sticker and then put it back into another machine that will cut it right. Okay, um yeah, this one's just basically one machine. Does it all kind of all in one?

Speaker 1: 50:06

oh, really okay right, so those raised ones, really the raised ones, yeah, yeah, raised stuff is.

Speaker 2: 50:11

Uh is a new thing that I got going on so I think we'll fire up something dope yeah, let's work together, let's figure it out, alan.

Speaker 1: 50:19

I look forward to doing some more shit with you, man, it's really cool getting to know you, man and understand more about what you do.

Speaker 2: 50:27

Yeah, kind of just. Yeah, kind of make the brands have different look, Bring them out.

Speaker 1: 50:34

Yeah, I think anytime you're an artist and you're helping work with brands to create shit and bring it to reality and we have a team of people here that do it too.

Speaker 2: 50:45

Heck yeah, this setup is dope. You guys got it locked.

Speaker 1: 50:50

So, yeah, you need that and to help bring it to reality, you need help.

Speaker 2: 50:57

You need more than just.

Speaker 1: 50:58

I'm a little dabbed out, but it's the third segment.

Speaker 2: 51:01

And you got to work with the right people. There's people that will hit me up and I just look at what they've wanted and I just can't. I just go sorry, like I, I just can't work with you Like it's not. I don't think it's going to.

Speaker 1: 51:11

I'm the right person you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 51:12

Or something like that, so um yeah, you find like I guess ultimately makes a Brand that lasts or a brand. Keeping things simple, I think, is an important aspect of it. It's it's you want to really convey a message, but you want to make sure that you're not confusing people. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 51:39

I mean, this is a good point.

Speaker 2: 51:40

Yeah, so just using people.

Speaker 1: 51:44

Yeah, it makes sense. That's a good point.

Speaker 2: 51:45

Yeah, so just uh keeping things kind of simple, consistent, like consistent for sure, colors you want to keep your, you don't want to have a, have your, your logo, have orange in it for a couple years and then all of a sudden you change it to yellow with and a different font. Nobody knows and you didn't have like a plan, right.

Speaker 1: 51:59

So um yeah you know, interestingly, I, I know I'm rebranding is smart sense, like most companies do it, and we have, like it's gotta be strategic. Yeah, strategic, exactly like we have evolved. I don't know, I wouldn't think about or how would you do it anyways, I don't know. I'm definitely. Yeah, I've done a few re.

Speaker 2: 52:20

I've done a few rebrand projects. I mean, a lot of them are especially like on the legal side. They're all like NDAs and it's all contracts and it's like you can't even talk about it.

Speaker 1: 52:29

It sucks but yeah, that's good though it's keeping busy, which is good where can people find you like on Instagram what your website is?

Speaker 2: 52:41

websiteshybridvisionscom and on Instagram. What's your website Websiteshybridvisionscom Instagram's adhybridvisions? Is that where you get a?

Speaker 1: 52:48

lot of people come through.

Speaker 2: 52:50

Yeah, it's a lot of people seeing the work that I post and then they go yeah, let's do this, Can? You do this.

Speaker 1: 52:59

And you do some shots for them.

Speaker 2: 53:01

Obviously there's stuff that comes from the website. I do have like an online little shop that you know. I have some my own merch. You guys, I got for you guys too, dope that I've done up. Thanks, dude.

Speaker 1: 53:12

And thank you so much. I forgot to say thanks to Munger Mel. I didn't want to smoke it. I know I want to. We're going to have to buy some and support the cause.

Speaker 2: 53:24

It's a sleeper. For sure, buy some Every $10 goes to the Hope Society and help somebody who's struggling with mental health, and that's important it is.

Speaker 1: 53:34

Don't forget to follow us at Higher Orbit. Where can they find you, buddy? Where's Hybrid Visions?

Speaker 2: 53:37

At Hybrid Visions, At Hybrid Visions on Instagram. Go give Alan a follow.

Speaker 1: 53:40

Man he's dope and we're really happy to have him. Thank you for having me and Appreciate it. We'll see you soon. Catch you soon, powered by Rosin Heads. Go eat some fucking Rosin Heads.

Speaker 2: 53:50

That was some good chocolate. Thank you, give me more. I'm going to have another dab too. Good night Diagnostic complete. All systems functioning normally.